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12 August 2012

Insane Clown Posse & 13th Annual Gathering of the Juggalos / it's a freedom party / it's a gang / Whoop-Whoop!

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The Detroit Free Press
(daily broadsheet, Detroit, Michigan USA)
Sunday 12 August 2012


8000 Insane Clown Posse fans
party hard in rural Illinois


by Brian McCollum
Detroit Free Press Pop Music Writer


CAVE-IN-ROCK, Illinois --
One is a convenience store manager from Colorado, another an unemployed electrician from Michigan. One is a high-school single mom in Ohio.

Together, they say -- their voices often cracking, arms dotted with goose bumps -- they are family.
 

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At the 13th Gathering of the Juggalos, which started Wednesday and wraps up today [Sunday] at a campground near this dot on the map by the Ohio River, they've arrived about 8000 strong, seeking community and celebrating the world of Detroit rap group Insane Clown Posse.

Since starting as an impromptu fan convention in Novi in 2000, the Gathering has evolved into a bucket-list event for ICP fans -- part summer pilgrimage, part family reunion for thousands from across the country.

"First time here," said one young Ohio man. "First time home."

After "whoop-whoop!" -- the incessant greeting of Juggalos at the fest -- the word you hear most here is "family." These fans will tell you straight up: They are society's outcasts, the put-upon, the bullied. They grew up wearing hand-me-downs. They listen to music mocked by the mainstream.

With its booming rap music, raucous wrestling events, nude flashing, drug trade, street-fighting contests and Faygo pop drenching, the Gathering is their solace. Here, they wear shirts declaring "Proud To Be A Fat Kid" and soak up the flirting they can't always get on the outside. Food is shared, acts of kindness doled out.

"We're here because we were all jokes growing up," said a 34-year-old Florida fan who calls herself Joei Terrifyin'. "They gave us a place to be loved, to fit in."

Nick Pool of Kentucky calls himself a "real redneck country son of a bitch."

"This is the one place I can be who I want to be," he said. "We ain't the rich class. We are who we are. We're people. We're just different."

This is ICP's handiwork: the vivid culmination of a vision honed two decades ago by a pair of high school dropouts from Oak Park. With their tight-knit, faithful Juggalo community, ICP's Violent J (Joe Bruce) and Shaggy 2 Dope (Joey Utsler) have fostered what just might be the last organic subculture in modern America.

"Here, they find a family that will accept them no matter what they look like," said David Dunagan, a bearded, braided ICP fan from Arizona. "It makes them go, 'I'm so comfortable with me, I can do anything.' "

Fans are well acquainted with the skepticism of onlookers such as Al Kovacs, 63, of South Lyon, who wrote the Free Press to remark on the Gathering.

"I'm looking at the pictures of a scruffy mob of pariahs," he said. "These outcasts represent a growing core of what young America is today."

Kovacs described the Gathering as the end point of '60s culture: "My generation gave rise to chilling events that evolved into the disturbing actions and approaches of today."
 

Freedom and derision

The Gathering is a distinctive stew of spirits: the counterculture air of a Grateful Dead show, the assertive freedom of a biker rally, the open insouciance of a nudist colony, all laced with ICP's comic-book, horror-show imagery. It's a self-contained dollop of anarchism in the hills of southeastern Illinois near the state's border with Kentucky.

"There's a lot of freedom going on here that you don't see at other festivals," said Farris Haddad, an attorney for ICP.

On a late night at the Gathering, fire dancers abruptly emerge in the crowd before disappearing into the night. Water bottles hurtle overhead as '90s-vintage hip-hop plays from the main stage. Heavy drugs are sold and bartered as enterprising fans peddle cigarettes, liquor shots and custom apparel. Impromptu parties at campsites spring up all night.

The outside world has become weirdly fascinated by it all, looking on curiously, derision ready at hand. ICP's colorful infomercials have become "Saturday Night Live" parodies, and Gathering photos turn into online viral hits. The fest draws a heavy presence from New York's hip alternative media, including Village Voice and Vice magazine.

At a seminar Friday, a sympathetic Violent J reminded fans that they make an easy target for the establishment because "everything about ICP and Juggalos is a joke to the mainstream world."

The Juggalos aren't laughing, however. ICP announced Friday that it will sue the FBI for designating Juggalos as a gang -- a move that the group says has hurt its multimillion-dollar merchandise sales and spurred police harassment of fans.

Juggalos say the labeling is unfair. "What we're doing here isn't harmful," said Dunagan. "People aren't dying."
 

Brazen and vigilant

Outside the fest site -- a private campground -- country roads teemed with law-enforcement vehicles. 15 festgoers were arrested en route to the event Wednesday, most on drug offenses, the local sheriff told the Free Press. Paramedics said one fan was flown to a hospital after overdosing and was in intensive care Friday night. 


Two other helicopter evacuations followed Saturday. Fans were vigilant: The medical helicopters may have helped spawn rumors of a Department of Homeland Security flyby, and fears that the Gathering would be raided persisted through the weekend. There's an ever-present edginess to the Gathering, the sense that anything could happen, for good or ill. Schedules are loose, and Thursday night was marked by no-shows, including headline rappers DMX and the Game.

At the fan-christened "Drug Bridge" at the campground's center, peddlers lined the path, offering an assortment of wares to all comers: marijuana, ecstasy, LSD, prescription pills. Elsewhere around the site, drugs were pitched by megaphone: "We've got rolls! We've got molly! We've got liquid acid!"

There are standards at the Gathering: The Drug Bridge was closed at least once by festival staff, and adult film star Ron Jeremy was kicked off the site late Thursday for an unnamed transgression.

Beyond the Drug Bridge, the Gathering vibe is less dangerous than mischievous. Members of one group of teenage fans vowed that, come hell or high water, they were going home with the main-stage banners in their trunks.

Still, for even experienced rock festivalgoers, the fan brazenness at the Gathering can be jarring. One security guard lamented that many new attendees are "coming now just for the drugs."

Some Juggalos have dubbed them the "Dirty Dirties" and say a division is taking root among the fan base.

Jacqui Aruda, 27, of Boston was in high school when she realized her love of ICP made her a target for classmates' mockery.

" 'Oh, you listen to the clown people, the 40-year-old men in makeup,' " she remembers them saying. "But ICP's message is about family, about getting rid of those entities in the world that are bad. And we're the problem?"

She and other Juggalos are on guard and eager to keep the sense of community intact.

"The more newbies that are coming in, the more mainstream it's getting, the more we're getting of those who don't understand it," said Aruda. "Family has never been more needed than now."

More Details: Follow the festival

Free Press Pop Music Writer Brian McCollum and photographer Romain Blanquart are at the 13th Gathering of the Juggalos.

The annual festival celebrating the world of Insane Clown Posse is being held this year at Cave-In-Rock in rural southern Illinois.

You can read additional reports about happenings at the event at www.freep.com.

Also check www.twitter.com/freepent and watch www.freep.com /thegatheringphotos for Instagram pictures.


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The Rolling Stone
weekly magazine USA
Saturday 11 August 2012


Insane Clown Posse
to Sue FBI
Over Gang Designation


Horrorcore duo announce legal action
at Gathering of the Juggalos


by Miriam Coleman

Insane Clown Posse plan to sue the FBI
over what the rappers claim is an unfair designation of their fans as gang members, Spin reports. During the ICP Seminar at the 2012 Gathering of the Juggalos, Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope announced to some 1,500 fans that they would be demanding that the FBI remove them from the gang list.

Last November, the agency released its 2011 National Gang Threat Assessment report, designating a section to Juggalos and referring to the ICP-loving subculture as "a loosely-organized hybrid gang."

"Although recognized as a gang in only four states, many Juggalos subsets exhibit gang-like behavior and engage in criminal activity and violence," the document says. "Law enforcement officials in at least 21 states have identified criminal Juggalo sub-sets, according to [National Gang Intelligence Center] reporting." The report goes on to note that "Juggalo gangs" are expanding in New Mexico, "primarily because they are attracted to the tribal and cultural traditions of the Native Americans residing nearby."

"Let's get this straight, a Juggalo is not a gang member," Violent J said in an interview with Vice. "Consider a Juggalo that, 15 years ago, got a hatchet man tattoo or something. Now they've got a family, they're working in real estate or something, and they're driving home and get a speeding ticket. Next thing you know, he's in the gang file, and that will be taken into consideration in any trial. Suddenly, it ain't just somebody who fucked up, it's a gang member that fucked up, and they're getting a heavier sentence."

To help build their case against the FBI, Insane Clown Posse and their label, Psychopathic Records, have launched the website juggalosfightback.com, where they will be seeking testimony from Juggalos who feel their rights have been violated as a result of their affiliation.

"We want to show our appreciation and support for our fans and we are prepared to assist you in learning about your legal rights and to fight for you in Court, if possible," a statement on the website says.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/insane-clown-posse-to-sue-fbi-over-gang-designation-20120811#ixzz23JP8J8Fh
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01 August 2012

Pussy Riot's musical challenge to the Putin-Patriarch Partnership heading the punk girls to 7 years in the Gulag Archipelago

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Then join Amnesty International.

Yeah, we -- the USA, I live here when I'm not vacationing on Planet Vleeptron -- got our political prisoners, people doing Mucho Hard Time largely or entirely because of the Bad Breath that came out of their unpopular mouths.

But Putin's Russia -- and it's his, there aren't any checks and balances in Russia, no institution with any power to thwart this ex-KGB chief -- is proudly reverting not just to the worst oppression and suppression of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, but to the Tsar era, where one despot's word was instantly law and instantly carried out.

I got a big mouth with a lot of unpopular bad breath.

But I live in the USA. The health of the USA, our political vital signs are measured in how few unpopular bad breath loudmouths end up doing hard prison time.

I don't want to take too much credit for the culture of the USA, but we and the Brits practically invented political Bad Breath, and made the rest of the world envious of how much nasty crap we could scream in public without being tossed into a gulag or vanishing in the bowels of a soccer stadium.

The question isn't how artistically wonderful The Sex Pistols or Lenny Bruce are.
 

During the opening theatrical extravaganza of the London Olympics, the soundtrack blared the line "God Save The Queen" by The Sex Pistols -- while HRH Elizabeth II was there to open the games. 

So what? Doesn't every Brit sing "God Save the Queen"? 

Well ... no, not the way the Sex Pistols sang it.

The question is: What happens to rude, vulgar, loud critics of the establishment in nations like Russia or the People's Republic of China? What happens to people who dare to criticize the Royal Family of Thailand? 

Live in Saudi Arabia and got a gripe about the King? Stand up and share your feelings with your neighbors.

And how much do the people of the rest of the world envy the few nations that do a pretty good job of tolerating Free Political Speech?

Lots.

For their extraordinary vulgarity and anti-church, anti-Putin musical filth, Pussy Riot may end up doing a 7-year stretch in the Gulag Archipelago.

But a HUGE bunch of Planet Earth wishes they had the guts to be Pussy Riot.

Because it's very wearying and dispiriting to be frightened of speaking (or singing) your opinions about your government or your government's Partner Church.

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Reuters
(newswire UK)
Tuesday 31 July 2012

 
Russia's 'Pussy Riot'
on trial for cathedral protest


by Alissa de Carbonnel

MOSCOW, July 30 (Reuters) -- Three members of a Russian female punk band went on trial on Monday, facing up to 7 years in jail for protesting against Vladimir Putin inside a Moscow cathedral, a prosecution they said was aimed at spreading fear and silencing dissent.

The trial of the women from the band "Pussy Riot" is being seen as a test of the longtime leader's tolerance of opposition at the start of his third presidential term.

The trio were charged with "hooliganism motivated by religious hatred or hostility" for a performance in February when they entered the Christ the Saviour Cathedral, ascended the altar and called on the Virgin Mary to "throw Putin out!"

Conservative writers and church leaders have demanded harsh punishment, while civil rights groups say a long prison sentence would be out of proportion with the crime, and prove that Putin is determined to crush opposing voices.

Maria Alyokhina, 24, Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, 22, and Yekaterina Samutsevich, 29, were brought to Moscow's Khamovniki court for Russia's highest-profile trial since another opponent of Putin, former oil tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovsky, was convicted of embezzlement in 2010 in the same courtroom.

Supporters chanted "Girls, we're with you!" and "Victory!" as the women, each handcuffed by the wrist to a female officer, were escorted from a police van into the courthouse.

The group's members have consistently maintained that their protest was political and that they meant no harm to Christians.

"We did not want to offend anybody," Tolokonnikova said from the same metal and clear-plastic courtroom cage where Khodorkovsky sat with his business partner during their trial.

"Our motives were exclusively political."

In opening statements read out by their lawyers, the women defended their actions and denounced the prosecution. The case marked "the start of a campaign of authoritarian, repressive measures aimed to ... spread fear among politically active citizens," Samutsevich said in her statement.

Pussy Riot burst onto the scene this winter with angry lyrics and surprise performances, including one on Red Square outside the Kremlin, that went viral on the Internet.

The band members see themselves as the avant-garde of a disenchanted generation looking for creative ways to show dissatisfaction with Putin's 12-year dominance of politics.

The performance in the cathedral was designed to highlight the close relationship between the dominant Russian Orthodox Church and former KGB officer Putin, then prime minister, whose campaign to return to the presidency in a March election was backed by the leader of the church, Patriarch Kirill.

The church, which has enjoyed a big revival since the demise of the Communist Soviet Union in 1991 and is seeking more influence on secular life, has described the performance as part of a sinister campaign by "anti-Russian forces."

The prosecution dismissed accusations of political motives.

"This is not a question of our parliamentary or presidential elections, but a criminal case about ...
banal hooliganism with a religious motive," said Larisa Pavlova, who represents Lyubov Sokologorskaya, one of several people who work at the cathedral and are appearing at the trial as "victims" of Pussy Riot.

Sokologorskaya, who described herself as a "profound believer", said only clerics were allowed at the altar and that the defendants' bare shoulders, short skirts and "aggressive" dance moves violated church rules and offended the faithful.

"When I talk about this event, my heart hurts. It hurts that this is possible in our country," she said. "Their punishment must be adequate so that never again is such a thing repeated."

Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev dismissed criticism of the case. The trial was a "serious ordeal" for the defendants and their families but "one should be calm about it" and await the outcome, he told Britain's Times newspaper in an interview posted on the Russian government's website.

Whether the group's performance crossed the line from a "moral misdemeanour" to a crime was "up to the court to decide," Medvedev, in London for the Olympics, said.

A defence lawyer for the musicians, Nikolai Polozov, said Medvedev's comments were aimed at putting pressure on the court to "punish blasphemers": "The court is being very one-sided, slanted towards the prosecution, which of course in our view is motivated exclusively by political bias in this case."

ANGER OVER CLOSE CHURCH-STATE TIES
The women looked thinner and paler than they did when they were jailed following the performance in
late February, shortly before Putin, in power as president from 2000-2008 and then as prime minister, won a six-year presidential term on March 4.

"She looks like she has been on a long hunger strike," Stanislav Samutsevich said of his daughter. "I think this is like an inquisition, like mockery."

A reporter on state-run TV presented a different picture, focusing on occasional smiles and chuckles, by the women, who whispered to each other as a prosecutor read the charges.

"Look at their faces; they are laughing and joking," the reporter said on the news, adding that a viewer might think they were "continuing the action" they carried out at the cathedral.

In their opening statements the women said they were protesting against Kirill's political support for
Putin and had no animosity towards the church or the faithful.

"I have never had such feelings towards anyone in the world," Tolokonnikova said in her statement, describing the charge of religious hatred as "wildly harsh".

"Our performance contained no aggression towards the public -- only a desperate desire to change the situation in Russia for the better," she said. "We are not enemies of Christianity. The opinion of Orthodox believers is important to us and we want all of them to be on our side -- on the side of anti-authoritarian civil activists."

Alyokhina's statement said: "I thought the church loved all its children, but it seems the church loves only those children who love Putin."


Prosecutors asked for the trial, which was streamed live on the Internet, to be closed to the public and the media. The judge rejected the motion but ordered live streaming shut off during witness testimony and some other proceedings.

PROTEST MOVEMENT
Amnesty International said the Pussy Riot performers "must be released immediately" and that the prison terms they face if convicted are "wildly out of all proportion."

"They dared to attack the two pillars of the modern Russian establishment -- the Kremlin and the Orthodox Church," regional programme director John Dalhuisen said in a statement.

The performance was part of a lively protest movement that at its peak saw 100,000 people turn out for rallies in Moscow, some of the largest in Russia since the Soviet Union's demise.

The trial comes as Putin, who is 59 and has not ruled out seeking another term in 2018, tries to rein in opponents who hope to reignite the street protest movement this autumn.

On Monday, Putin signed a law enacting stricter punishment for defamation. That follows recent laws tightening controls on foreign-funded civil rights groups and sharply raising fines for violations of public order at street rallies.

Opposition leaders including anti-corruption blogger Alexei Navalny and socialite Ksenia Sobchak have had their homes searched and faced repeated rounds of questioning over violence at a protest on the eve of Putin's inauguration on May 7.

Lawyers for Navalny say investigators are preparing to charge him, in a separate case, with a crime punishable by up to 5 years in prison. He was summoned to the federal Investigative Committee on Monday and told to return on Tuesday.

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The Telegraph
(UK daily broadsheet)
Monday 30 July 2012


Pussy Riot on trial
in watershed case
for Putin's presidency


Three members of Pussy Riot, the radical group of Russian feminist activists that has challenged the Kremlin, went on trial in Moscow on Monday in a case that will set the tone for Vladimir Putin's new presidency.
 

by Tom Parfitt, Moscow

Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, 22, Yekaterina Samutsevich, 29, and Maria Alekhina, 24, are facing up to 7 years in jail for their "punk prayer."

The musicians stormed into the city's main cathedral in February and cavorted in front of the altar, shouting, "Mother of God, Blessed Virgin, drive out Putin!"

Delivered to court in handcuffs, the women denied a charge of "hooliganism motivated by religious hatred", saying they were sorry to have offended Orthodox believers but innocent of wrongdoing.

The Pussy Riot group, whose members wear brightly coloured clothes and knitted balaclavas, was virtually unknown at the time of the protest at Christ the Saviour Cathedral, having carried out only a few minor "actions" including a guerrilla gig on Red Square.

But the three women's arrest in March brought them into the spotlight and chimed with the street protests against Mr Putin's rule that swept across Russia over the winter.

A video of the cathedral incident, in which believers in headscarves can be seen trying to usher the frantically dancing young women out of the church, was posted online with a soundtrack of heavy guitars and extra shouted lyrics laid over the top including: "Black cassock, golden epaulettes; all believers crawl and prostrate."

The trio, who were remanded in custody and denied access to their families, have since attracted worldwide support from stars such as Sting, Peter Gabriel and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, who say their prosecution is excessive. Amnesty International has named the women prisoners of conscience.

Their trial is being seen as a weathervane of Russia's course after Mr Putin's return to the presidency in May. Critics already perceive a backsliding on democracy.

This summer the Kremlin-controlled parliament managed to push through a series of tough laws, including restrictions on foreign-funded non-governmental organisations and the internet, and legislation increasing the scope for libel prosecutions.

Security was tight on Monday as the Pussy Riot women were delivered to a dock made of steel and bullet-proof glass at Moscow's Khamovnichesky Court, in the same courtroom where jailed billionaire and fellow Putin critic Mikhail Khodorkovsky was convicted in his latest trial in 2010.

In a passionate statement read to the court by a defence lawyer, Miss Tolokonnikova admitted that she and her friends may have committed an "ethical error" and were "very regretful" if churchgoers were insulted by the cathedral protest.

But she said their song was a reflection of many Russians' discontent at Patriarch Kirill, the leader of the Russian Orthodox Church, showing open support for Mr Putin as a candidate before the presidential election on March 4.

"We, like many of our compatriots, find unpleasant the insidiousness, deceit, venality, hypocrisy, acquisitiveness and lawlessness with which our current leadership and authorities are sinning," she said.

The "punk performance" was a targeted protest at the Patriarch propping up Mr Putin's "authoritarian and antifeminist course", she added.

Prosecutors said the group had "insulted in a sacrilegious manner the centuries-old foundations of the Russian Orthodox Church".

The trial has opened a wider debate about the role of the church and its leaders in Russian society.

Patriarch Kirill appeared to refer to Pussy Riot when he said recently the church was "under attack by persecutors" and that "blasphemy, derision of the sacred is put forth as a lawful expression of human freedom."

A cathedral attendant who witnessed the protest at Christ the Saviour was summoned as a prosecution witness on Monday and said the women had "desecrated all that is holy to me".

Pussy Riot's supporters say the church is a part of the corrupted nexus of business and politics that is trying to stifle dissent and preserve hardline rule in Russia.

Speaking to The Daily Telegraph before the opening of the trial, Nikolai Polozov, one of Pussy Riot's defence lawyers, said: "They went on to Putin's sacred ground and he's a vengeful person. I'm sure he gave the signal for this prosecution."

Mr Polozov said he expected a guilty verdict but could not predict the sentence. "It could be 2
months, it could be 7 years," he said.

"If Putin is under pressure, say on Syria, or something else happens, he might use the girls as a distraction and earn some political capital by putting them away. And then they'll be sewing felt boots, like Khodorkovsky, in a prison colony." The trial continues.

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COMMENTS:
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    CharredBarn

    07/31/2012 02:37 PM

    Boycott Russian vodka until Pussy Riot is free!!

    https://www.facebook.com/pages...

    http://tinyurl.com/free-p-riot
     
    Huggy_Bear

    07/31/2012 08:45 PM

    You'd do well to lay off the hard stuff permanently, so it seems...

    jamieswickford

    07/31/2012 12:40 PM

    Democracy is a funny thing. We 'in the West' are given a choice of three public school boys, who

themselves have been selected from a further group of public schoolboys who do not in any way live in

the world which the rest of us do.

    No wonder Russians are sticking with Putin.

    lorrinet

    07/31/2012 02:14 PM

    David Davis, who should have won the Conservative leadership, is NOT a public schoolboy.

    Huggy_Bear

    07/31/2012 08:49 PM

    Ah, but he got blocked by his own party, didn't he...

    sodit

    07/31/2012 06:35 AM

    If he treats them harshly, then he makes martyrs out of them. If he treats them leniently, he

provokes more of the same.

    Give the naughty girls a good spanking, then put them to bed without their tea. That would be my

advice.

    Huggy_Bear

    07/31/2012 10:17 AM

    Had it been a one-off, this might have been good advice. However, they have form in anti-social

behaviour and "outraging public decency" as they say in this country.
       
    quantre

    07/31/2012 01:58 AM

    Put them in a male prison for a month.

    Huggy_Bear

    07/31/2012 02:03 AM

    The stupid cnuts themselves may be "naughty", but their paymasters can only be described as very

devious and determined.

    Golden_Bull

    07/31/2012 02:29 AM

        Huggy_Bear

    The paymasters think they are super clever that they can fool some of the people some of the time.

    But in reality they cannot fool all of the people, all of the time.

    cortesar

    07/31/2012 03:52 AM

     if you manage to fool all of the people some time and some people all of the time that just may be

enough
    Especially if the later category is the prevalent one
     
    Huggy_Bear

    07/31/2012 02:33 AM

    You'd be surprised by the number of libtards who swallow NWO propaganda line, hook and sinker
       
    Rogoraeck

    07/31/2012 08:16 AM

     I'm not surprised at all!

    Huggy_Bear

    07/31/2012 01:40 AM

    "The musicians stormed into the city's main cathedral in February and cavorted in front of the

altar, shouting, "Mother of God, Blessed Virgin, drive out Putin!"

    This is a lie. What is quoted is the soundtrack they had prepared in advance. What they actually

chanted in the cathedral itself was, repeatedly, "Shit of the Lord! Shit of the Lord!" ('Sran'

gospodnia!') - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

    Once you bear this in mind, the whole "punk prayer" defence goes out of the window.

    What the article also doesn't mention is that the "girls" have form. A couple of years earlier

they, as part of a larger group, held a fuck-a-thon in Moscow's Biology Museum (during opening hours

btw), filmed it and put on youtube. One of them (Tolokonnikova) was 8 months pregnant at the time. -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v..., from 0:37

    On yet another occasion, one of the "girls" went to a supermarket and stuffed a whole chicken up

her cnut (again, that was filmed and put on youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... from 3:55).

That also must have been in protest against Putin, I'm sure.
 
    quantre

    07/31/2012 01:53 AM

    wow a whole chicken! the dirty mare.

    Golden_Bull

    07/31/2012 01:48 AM

         Huggy_Bear

    This is the DT, please do not ask for the "Truth", as in the DT China article allegation, it has

disappeared!!

    Huggy_Bear

    07/31/2012 02:01 AM

    I am not that naive, mate! Just trying to fight back against NWO lies on the enemy's own ground...

    joy52

    07/30/2012 11:55 PM

    They should receive an appropriate punishment. They thought it was ok to desecrate the church and

offend sensibilities of everyday Russians just because they did not agree with Putin or the Orthodox

Church. They only expressed regret after the fact and realizing they would be punished.

    There is a line and they crossed it. That detracted from whatever message they had. 'Anything' is

not ok.

    David Camerpong

    07/30/2012 11:36 PM

    This an excellent opportunity for the Russians to see of the americans by punishing the girls

having them clean the church for the next 7 months or let the church decide their punishment..

    adamcollyer

    07/30/2012 10:08 PM

    Let's just wait for the verdict and then the sentence if they're found guilty before jumping to

conclusions, hmm?

    They haven't even been found guilty yet, and seven years is the maximum sentence for the offence -

the maximum sentence in Scotland for Breach of the Peace is life imprisonment!

    enantiomer2000

    07/30/2012 08:53 PM

    It's still Soviet Russia isn't it?  Has anything changed?  In the USA the worst that would happen

might be a disorderly conduct charge which is basically a slap on the wrists.  They didn't hurt anybody

and only caused a commotion.  Put them in jail for 7 years for this?  Sounds crazy to me.  Let's face

it, Putin is the new dictator of Russia. 
   
    digpig

    07/30/2012 10:33 PM

    The Orthodox Church in some ways is even less free than it was in the days of the USSR.  The senior

clerics knew in the 1970s they were not free, but now they have a Patriarch who has openly enslaved the

Church to the criminal and corrupt regime of Putin - whose period in office he has even dared to call a

    telepath

    07/30/2012 09:31 PM

    Don't brandish the USA's leniency, please. The USA on a daily basis commit crimes against humanity

across the world, plus having death penalty across own states (how many innocent people they have

executed?)... With regards to own citizens, recently more than 16 Russian children died at the hands of

US sadistic adoptive parents, not to mention regular shootings across US by disgruntled individuals.
    Nobody has sentenced the idiots to 7 years - 7 years is the maximum, they may get as much as 2

months...
    Oh, just read about Mitt Romney's admiration for the Israeli cultural and religious superiority,

real nazi stuff...
      
    3spartan

    07/30/2012 08:41 PM

    They can't possibly understand how people in Britain feel about Woolly Beard, Archbishop of

Cantebury, supposed moral guardian of the nation's values. Keep quiet, keep coining it in, agree with

the secular profiteers.

    writepudding on twitter

    07/30/2012 11:49 PM
    RT @parfitt_tom: "Pussy Riot on trial in watershed case for Vladimir Putin's presidency" My report

in the @telegraph http://t.co/sjVc5svi
    Commenter's avatar   

    almackin on twitter

    07/30/2012 11:15 PM
    Vladimir Putin promises to jail Pussycat Dolls and Atomic Kitten next http://t.co/Iv5Py8Ob

#cathater

    albino_monk on twitter

    07/30/2012 10:31 PM
    RT @MickAxten: Please read and RT if you want to support pussyriot and oppose the Russian

governments position #pussyriot http://t.co/YVbH7mJj
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    paulmorrisTIM on twitter

    07/30/2012 10:27 PM
    Fuck yeah Pussy Riot. http://t.co/nBfSNIVw
   
    bridld83 on twitter

    07/30/2012 10:24 PM
    @PeteTheRed88 sounds like something you would get caught up in. http://t.co/qZpQlVL6
        JessieJessup on twitter

    07/30/2012 10:18 PM
    Pussy Riot on trial in watershed case for Vladimir Putin's presidency http://t.co/uKAMNCZy
    

    MickAxten on twitter

    07/30/2012 09:46 PM
    Please read and RT if you want to support pussyriot and oppose the Russian governments position

#pussyriot http://t.co/YVbH7mJj

    WrightArchitect on twitter

    07/30/2012 09:17 PM
    Still no free political speech in Russia: "Pussy Riot" jailed; they offended the Orthodox Church!!!