Great Moments in Religious Tolerance: The Gospel According to Brain-Damaged Hate Psycha Ann Coulter

I'm at my most Beautiful and Tolerant and Understanding and Respectful of Somebody Else's religious faith.

(Okay, well, I did sort of let my standards down in my post about Tom Cruise's religious faith.)

Well, the Huckleberry Finn of World Jewry doesn't often get jiggy with Hot Buttons about Jews and Judaism.

So minus-4 Cheers for a Cable Talking Head named Donny Deutsch -- a Jew himself -- who gave a free prime-time narrowcast forum to the psychiatrically challenged Nazette Ann Coulter on cable's CNBC channel.

Are her sentiments what Christians believe about Jews? That Jews just need a little Perfecting, the way Christians have already Perfected themselves?

Bet not.

If you're a Christian, or a Hindu, or a Muslim, or a Swedenborgian, or an Atheist, or an Agnostic, or (like myself) a Neo-Pythagorean Sufi Spinozan Pantheist, or if you worship Chunky Peanut Butter, or Flying Spaghetti Monster -- Leave A Comment. Let's all just leap directly into the Jello Wrestling Pit of Everybody Else's Theology. Let's let it all hang out.

Particularly -- what are your True Feelings about Somebody Else's religious beliefs?

And what are your True Feelings about Ann Coulter? Was she dropped on her head as a baby? From a sixth storey balcony? Onto an asphalt parking lot?

And what are your True Feelings about allegedly reputable cable and television networks which give free prime time to Psychas like Coulter?

And while I got you on the line ... do animals have souls? If there's a Heaven, and if they let me in, will my cats be there too? And your Jack Russell Terrier? Will your ferret be allowed in Heaven?

And if the Theologically Perfected Ann Coulter is there -- can I go Somewhere Else? Or am I stuck in Heaven for Eternity with Ann Coulter in the next condo?

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e-mail to Donny Deutsch and CNBC
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Donny Deutsch
The Big Idea
CNBC

Dear Donny Deutsch,

Congratulations! I'm delighted to certify that you're not an antisemite!

So what are you?

You're a dumb-ass low-rent trailer-park Cable Ratings Whore who gives a free national prime-time forum to antisemites!

I'm sure Hitler relied on lots of assholes in the German media exactly like you to transfer his Nazi message from lonely, marginalized streetcorners and into every household in the Weimar Republic.

Go Controversy! Go Ratings! Go Geraldo! Go Jerry Springer! Go Maury Povich! Go Roger Ailes! Go Rush! Go O'Reilly! Go Nancy Grace! Go Murdoch! Go Fox!

And hoorah for slime like you. "The Big Idea" is an Old Idea -- your ambition and success in exchange for free propaganda for community-destroying bigots and hatemongers.

When Coulter pulled her "faggot" crap, a lot of respectable Bible Belt/Deep South daily newspapers permanently dropped her column from their op-ed page. You should read how their editorials explained why Coulter was no longer welcome in their decent newspapers. They apologized for the censorship -- but said her Hate Crap was far too vicious for decent human beings, and they weren't going to serve as propaganda delivery agents of her Hate Speech anymore.

God, you're a flaming asshole. Does your mother know what you do for a living?

Robert Merkin
Northampton Massachusetts

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PS TO CNBC

I AM V-CHIPPING CNBC AND BLACKING IT OUT FROM MY CABLE. PLEASE NOTIFY ME WHEN YOU DON'T WHORE FOR NAZIS ANYMORE.

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Editor & Publisher
(journalism industry trade magazine, US)
Thursday 11 October 2007

Ann Coulter on CNBC Show:
Jews Need 'Perfecting'

by E&P Staff

NEW YORK -- Appearing on Donny Deutsch's CNBC show, "The Big Idea," on Monday night, columnist/author Ann Coulter suggested that the U.S. would be a better place if there weren't any Jewish people and that they needed to "perfect" themselves into -- Christians.

It led Deutsch to suggest that surely she couldn't mean that, and when she insisted she did, he said this sounded "anti-Semitic."

Asked by Deutsch whether she wanted to be like "the head of Iran" and "wipe Israel off the Earth," Coulter stated: "No, we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say. ... That's what Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament."

Deutsch told E&P's sibling magazine, Adweek, today, "I was offended. And then, and this was interesting, she started to back off and seemed a little upset."

Asked to gauge her reaction, Deutsch said, "I think she got frightened that maybe she had crossed a line, that this was maybe a faux pas of great proportions. I mean, did it show ignorance? Anti-Semitism? It wasn't just one of those silly things."

A transcript, provided by Media Matters, follows.

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DEUTSCH: Christian -- so we should be Christian? It would be better if we were all Christian?

COULTER: Yes.

DEUTSCH: We should all be Christian?

COULTER: Yes. Would you like to come to church with me, Donny?

DEUTSCH: So I should not be a Jew, I should be a Christian, and this would be a better place?

COULTER: Well, you could be a practicing Jew, but you're not.

DEUTSCH: I actually am. That's not true. I really am. But -- so we would be better if we were - if people -- if there were no Jews, no Buddhists --

COULTER: Whenever I'm harangued by --

DEUTSCH: -- in this country? You can't believe that.

COULTER: -- you know, liberals on diversity --

DEUTSCH: Here you go again.

COULTER: No, it's true. I give all of these speeches at megachurches across America, and the one thing that's really striking about it is how utterly, completely diverse they are, and completely unself-consciously. You walk past a mixed-race couple in New York, and it's like they have a chip on their shoulder. They're just waiting for somebody to say something, as if anybody would. And --

DEUTSCH: I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that at all. Maybe you have the chip looking at them. I see a lot of interracial couples, and I don't see any more or less chips there either way. That's erroneous.

COULTER: No. In fact, there was an entire Seinfeld episode about Elaine and her boyfriend dating because they wanted to be a mixed-race couple, so you're lying.

DEUTSCH: Oh, because of some Seinfeld episode? OK.

COULTER: But yeah, I think that's reflective of what's going on in the culture, but it is completely striking that at these huge megachurches -- the idea that, you know, the more Christian you are, the less tolerant you would be is preposterous.

DEUTSCH: That isn't what I said, but you said I should not -- we should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians, then, or --

COULTER: Yeah.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Well, it's a lot easier. It's kind of a fast track.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Yeah. You have to obey.

DEUTSCH: You can't possibly believe that.

COULTER: Yes.

DEUTSCH: You can't possibly -- you're too educated, you can't -- you're like my friend in --

COULTER: Do you know what Christianity is? We believe your religion, but you have to obey.

DEUTSCH: No, no, no, but I mean --

COULTER: We have the fast-track program.

DEUTSCH: Why don't I put you with the head of Iran? I mean, come on. You can't believe that.

COULTER: The head of Iran is not a Christian.

DEUTSCH: No, but in fact, "Let's wipe Israel" --

COULTER: I don't know if you've been paying attention.

DEUTSCH: "Let's wipe Israel off the earth." I mean, what, no Jews?

COULTER: No, we think -- we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say.

DEUTSCH: Wow, you didn't really say that, did you?

COULTER: Yes. That is what Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament, but ours is more like Federal Express. You have to obey laws. We know we're all sinners --

DEUTSCH: In my old days, I would have argued -- when you say something absurd like that, there's no --

COULTER: What's absurd?

DEUTSCH: Jews are going to be perfected. I'm going to go off and try to perfect myself --

COULTER: Well, that's what the New Testament says.

DEUTSCH: Ann Coulter, author of If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans, and if Ann Coulter had any brains, she would not say Jews need to be perfected. I'm offended by that personally. And we'll have more Big Idea when we come back.

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DEUTSCH: Welcome back to The Big Idea. During the break, Ann said she wanted to explain her last comment. So I'm going to give her a chance. So you don't think that was offensive?

COULTER: No. I'm sorry. It is not intended to be. I don't think you should take it that way, but that is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews. We believe the Old Testament. As you know from the Old Testament, God was constantly getting fed up with humans for not being able to, you know, live up to all the laws. What Christians believe -- this is just a statement of what the New Testament is -- is that that's why Christ came and died for our sins. Christians believe the Old Testament. You don't believe our testament.

DEUTSCH: You said -- your exact words were, "Jews need to be perfected." Those are the words out of your mouth.

COULTER: No, I'm saying that's what a Christian is.

DEUTSCH: But that's what you said -- don't you see how hateful, how anti-Semitic --

COULTER: No!

DEUTSCH: How do you not see? You're an educated woman. How do you not see that?

COULTER: That isn't hateful at all.

DEUTSCH: But that's even a scarier thought.

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Coulter:
"I don't think most Jews
are as stupid as Donny Deutsch"

On the October 11 broadcast of Steve Malzberg's WOR (New York) radio show, right-wing pundit Ann Coulter stood by her recent comment -- documented by Media Matters for America -- that "we" Christians "just want Jews to be perfected." She made that statement on the October 8 edition of CNBC's The Big Idea, during which host Donny Deutsch later said, "I'm offended by that personally." On Malzberg's show, Coulter defended her remarks by saying that she had "stated the ... doctrine of Christianity," and that the idea that Christians "want Jews to be perfected" "comes from that raging anti-Semite St. Paul." She added: "I don't think most Jews are as stupid as Donny Deutsch," and later asked, referring to Deutsch, "Is that guy even bar mitzvahed?"

During the October 8 Big Idea, Deutsch asked Coulter: "If you had your way ... and your dreams, which are genuine, came true ... what would this country look like?" Coulter responded, "It would look like New York City during the [2004] Republican National Convention. In fact, that's what I think heaven is going to look like." She then described the convention: "People were happy. They're Christian. They're tolerant. They defend America." Deutsch then asked, "It would be better if we were all Christian?" Coulter replied, "Yes," later adding, "[W]e just want Jews to be perfected, as they say."

Discussing those comments on The Steve Malzberg Show, Coulter, after asserting she had stated the "doctrine of Christianity," said, "Apparently, as we're always told in church, but you don't always ... see it, Christianity is a radical and offensive doctrine. But I think -- we'll see. I don't think most Jews are as stupid as Donny Deutsch." When Malzberg read her a Fox News headline of a story on the controversy, "Columnist Ann Coulter shocks cable TV show declaring ... Jews need to be perfected by becoming Christians," Coulter responded, "Right. That comes from that raging anti-Semite St. Paul."

Coulter later said: "People who have no knowledge of religion should not, for one thing, probably talk about it, but should certainly not go around getting their noses out of joint about it. But if anybody's going to be offended by anyone's religion -- we believe their religion. They don't believe ours."

Malzberg, who replied that he is Jewish, then said, "[S]o, I just want to make it clear for people out there that you're not telling Jews, 'Jews, you need to convert to Christianity,' are you?" Coulter replied, "Well, all Christians would want -- of course, a Christian would like everybody to become a Christian. I'm not going to slit your throat over it." Later on the program, when Malzberg asked, "And you have no problems with Jewish people," Coulter replied, "I'm a Christian," then said, "Well, I apparently now have a problem with one Jewish person, Donny Deutsch. Is that guy even bar mitzvahed?"

From the October 11 broadcast of WOR Radio Network's The Steve Malzberg Show:

MALZBERG: All right, there's lots going on. Again, you said something -- you appeared on the Donny Deutsch show -- in the last hour, I tried to explain who Donny Deutsch was. He has a show on CNBC -- nobody watches it. It gets probably the lowest ratings since the John McEnroe show, but yet because he's a rich advertising magnate, I guess, you know, they manage to keep him on somehow. Maybe he finds advertising, or he puts it on. But, nonetheless, you were on, last night, I guess?

COULTER: No. It was --

MALZBERG: You taped it today?

COULTER: Last week.

MALZBERG: Oh, last week! OK, see it took a week for them to see -- for anybody to see this. And you made some comments about that the country --

COULTER: Christianity. I stated the --

MALZBERG: Yes, the country would be --

COULTER: -- doctrine of Christianity.

MALZBERG: Yes.

COULTER: Apparently, as we're always told in church, but you don't always -- you don't always see it, Christianity is a radical and offensive doctrine. But I think -- we'll see. I don't think most Jews are as stupid as Donny Deutsch.

MALZBERG: Well, let me just say what they -- what Fox News' headline is: "Columnist Ann Coulter shocks cable TV show declaring" -- by going on it maybe --

COULTER: Right.

MALZBERG: -- "declaring Jews need to be perfected by becoming Christians."

COULTER: Right. That comes from that raging anti-Semite St. Paul.

MALZBERG: So, but what --

COULTER: This is a straight statement of Christian doctrine. You can look it up. One of my friends just emailed me from the Oxford University definition -- it's on [the blog] Sweetness and Light -- this is what Christians believe. We believe the Old Testament, and we think the New Testament completes that. I mean, the Old Testament is obviously anticipating some Christ coming. Jews say, "Not that Christ" --

MALZBERG: The Messiah.

COULTER: -- "you got the wrong one."

MALZBERG: Not -- Right, right.

COULTER: Yeah, we worship -- our savior is a Jew. They say our savior was a raving lunatic, but I was just saying that the New -- we consider, when Jews become Christians, that is becoming a perfected Jew. And that is precisely the theological term.

People who have no knowledge of religion should not, for one thing, probably talk about it, but should certainly not go around getting their noses out of joint about it. But if anybody's going to be offended by anyone's religion -- we believe their religion. They don't believe ours.

MALZBERG: Well, and I'm Jewish. So, I mean -- so, I just want to make it clear for people out there that you're not telling Jews, "Jews, you need to convert to Christianity," are you?

COULTER: Well, all Christians would want -- of course, a Christian would like everybody to become a Christian. I'm not going to slit your throat over it.

MALZBERG: Well, that's another story, yes.

COULTER: This is part of -- of course a Christian would want all -- everyone to become a Christian.

MALZBERG: Well, not all Christians. I mean, I --

COULTER: Well, there are Gentiles and there are Christians.

MALZBERG: OK. All right. So, is what you're doing is stating what you feel is the literal doctrine of the religion?

COULTER: Yes, and moreover, I mean, as I pointed out, since we believe the Old Testament --

MALZBERG: Right.

COULTER: -- [Rev. Jerry] Falwell himself has said this -- that we believe that Jews can go to heaven by following the Old Testament. It's a much harder road to hoe: The Old Testament is the God of laws. There are laws that have to be followed.

MALZBERG: Well, see that's the problem. That's why a lot of Jews don't want or welcome evangelical support, those who support Israel -- the Christians who support Israel -- because they say, "Well, they want Israel to exist just until Jesus comes back in their view, and then all the Jews are going to be killed if they don't convert to Christianity. We don't need friends like that." And I say, if you're Israel and Jews, you can't pick your friends. I mean, just accept the support for the country and for your religion and just let the chips fall where they may afterwards.

COULTER: Right, and if I could just straighten something out --

MALZBERG: Yeah.

COULTER: -- on the Armageddon thing.

MALZBERG: Yeah.

COULTER: It's not -- although, I'm constantly having non-Christians tell me that Christians support Israel because we're looking forward to Armageddon. Nobody wants to live through that. That would be a horrible thing to wish for. It's going to be an ugly time.

The reason, at least as far as I understand it, Christians support Israel, is because Jews are the chosen people, because this is in the Bible --

MALZBERG: Right.

COULTER: -- that Israel will always exist. I mean, you go back to the Old Testament, read about all these tribes, they don't exist anymore. It is proof that the Bible -- it is one of many, many, many, many proofs that the Bible is true, that Israel still exists.

MALZBERG: And you have no problems with Jewish people.

COULTER: Of --

MALZBERG: I'm just asking you that so you can --

COULTER: I'm a Christian.

MALZBERG: I understand that.

COULTER: Well, I apparently now have a problem with one Jewish person, Donny Deutsch. Is that guy even bar mitzvahed?

MALZBERG: I don't know. We're talking to, of course, Ann Coulter, on The Steve Malzberg Show.

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