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27 January 2007

Up from fœtid Comment Sewers beneath Ciudad Vleeptron: SNAKES ON AN ARK!!!

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Abbas said...

i downloaded the film yesterday and only got to see ten minutes of it before my wife fell asleep so i read the first line of your post and stopped reading from that point on. will continue reading once i', done with the film, which will now most likely be after ashura.

Sat Jan 27, 08:57:23 AM 2007

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If any of this explanation of Ashura is profoundly Wrong, please direct all Complaints to the British Broadcasting Corporation in London (i.e., Not Me in Massachusetts).

Woody Allen once wrote about the Jewish Holiday which comemmorates the day God reneged on all His promises to the Jews.

When I was in the Army, the Fort Benning daily bulletin once wished all Jewish personnel a

Happy 9 Av

I had to phone the Jewish Chaplain's officer to find out what the hell they were talking about.

(1 slice kosher or halal Pizza, or, if you're None Of The Above, trayfe or haraam pizza)

I can't find the Ashura greeting people traditionally say to each other. Tell me what it is, or you'll have to settle for Happy Ashura.

I don't know where Muslims believe Nuh/Noah made landfall, but Western archeologists and the occasional NASA astronaut are constantly crawling all over Mount Ararat in Turkey looking for debris from The Ark. The Flood story pre-dates Judaism and Islam, and is a big section of The Epic of Gilgamesh, from Mesopotamia/Iraq.

The historical Gilgamesh King of Uruk (on the Euphrates) ruled around 2650 BCE. In the last few decades historians and their ilk have come to believe The Flood was the natural breaking (by earthquake) of a natural earth dam at one end of the Black Sea -- but it was Real and it was Big and it was Wet and it indeed was Memorable, the kind of flood makes a feller want to write an Epic and found a Religion about.

Much of the above comes from watching crappy documentaries of questionable authenticity on The Discovery Channel, or worse.

So Happy Ashura and then get really psyched for 30 January -- SNAKES ON A PLANE!!! (Rosebud was his sled.)

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Ashura (10 Muharram)

[Wikipedia says "ashura" means "10th")

Find this year's date in the multifaith calendar: Monday 29 January 2007

Ashura has been a day of fasting for Sunni Muslims since the days of the early Muslim community. It marks two historical events: the day Nuh (Noah) left the Ark, and the day that Musa (Moses) was saved from the Egyptians by Allah.

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Muslim men wearing red headbands in the Ashura procession

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Shi'a Muslim men at the Ashura procession in London in 2002 ©

Shi'a Muslims in particular use the day to commemorate the martyrdom of Hussein, a grandson of the Prophet (pbuh), in 680 CE.

In Shi'ite communities this is a solemn day: plays re-enacting the martyrdom are often staged and many take part in mourning rituals.

Every year in London Shi'a Muslims gather for a mourning procession and speeches at Marble Arch. The procession attracts up to 3000 men, women and children from many different ethinic backgrounds.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

actually ashur is a day of sorrow for us, and never will you hear a shia muslim wishing someone mubarak. instead we say, dua may yaad, which translates into "remember me in your prayers". it marks the martyrdom of our imam hussain during the battle of karbala (present day iraq, one of all those holy sites you keep hearing about on cnn), the grandson of muhammad and one of the basic tenets of being a shia is that you remember him for his sacrifice that he made this day. to us, it is more important than all other battles and all other events. instead of ashura, try doing a wikipedia search on the battle of karbala. but one thing is for sure, you don't congratulate anyone on this day. there is a symbolic form of beating oneself that shia's partake in to realize the pain and suffering that hussain went through. though banned in my community, extremists use knives and chains. it's a form of rememberance known as maatam.

Anonymous said...

also ashura is the 10th day of muharram. muharram is the first month of the islamic calendar. this is the year 1428.

Vleeptron Dude said...

I felt comfy with Nuh/Noah and the Ark and Moses/Musa getting out of Egypt. But I knew about the Martyrdom and I knew it's at the center of the division between Shia and Sunni.

I didn't feel comfy saying anything about that. The non-Muslim world has been getting a sort of primitive Shock Education about this division/schism. I want a better education about these theological differences and their historic origins, but right now they're such Hot Button of anger that I shall just pray for tutors wiser than CNN and Fox to educate me.

So thanks! and Dua may yaad!

I guess you've figured out by now how passionate I am about the USA and other Western countries pulling their armies out of Iraq ASAP.

It seems extraordinarily clear to me that if non-Muslims from the West are curious about Islam, its history, and its distinctions, invading and occupying Iraq -- Shia majority which used to be run by a Sunni minority -- is not a very good religious schoolhouse.

Most -- maybe 99.9 percent -- of Americans had never even heard of the Sunni/Shia division until the Iranian student revolutionaries overthrew the Shah and seized the American hostages. These kinds of events are not very good blackboards from which to learn about Islam. It's like learning math while the bomb squad and sniffer dogs are crawling around the classroom.

Vleeptron Dude said...

Esprit de l’escalier ...

Students who wish respectfully to learn about someone else's religion should not bring automatic weapons to the classroom. Bad classroom environment, makes the teachers nervous.

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